I recently added the Saucony Hurricane 23 to my shoe rotation, and I really enjoy the combination of cushioning and responsiveness. I tend to do better with stability shoes. My other shoes are the Bondi 7 and Arahi 5. The Bondi worked well to around the 400 miles mark, I currently have 450 on them, but I believe the foam is starting to break down and allow rolling to the inside as lately, I've had ankle or knee aching, which doesn't occur with the other shoes. To me, the Arahi is not that soft, and I tend to use it for my shorter runs. After looking at shoe reviews and the graphical analysis of the various areas, softness, responsiveness, flexibility, etc., it seems like the Paradigm 6 is close to the Hurricane 23 in softness and responsiveness. Are the two shoes about the same in softness and responsiveness, or is one markedly better? I want to use three shoes in my rotation, especially with monsoon season approaching in a couple of months. I'm debating whether to add the Paradigm 6 to my Hurricane 23 and Arahi 5 rotation or just get a second pair of Hurricane 23s. Does anyone have thoughts or advice on this?
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Comparing Hurricane 23 with Paradigm 6
- Thread starter daneckit
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FYI, this is the final season for the Hurricane - it's replacement is the Tempus arriving this summer which looks to be a very good shoe. The Paradigm has not been very popular which would indicate the experience isn't great, plus being zero drop makes it uncomfortable for many. You may take a look at the Kayano Lite, a favorite with people at RW who need a bit of stability. It's an excellent shoe that is cushioned, responsive and fits well: https://www.runningwarehouse.com/ASICS_Gel_Kayano_Lite_2/descpage-AKL2M1.html
Hope that helps.
Joe
Hope that helps.
Joe
Just got back from a run and had a few more options pop in my head:
Saucony: My partner used to wear the Hurricane for years, then I gave him a pair of Saucony Endorphin Shifts and he bought 6 more pairs he liked them that much.
Nike: I usually wear Bondi's, got a pair of Nike Invincible and I gotta say it's a heck of a shoe. Has the same Zoom X midsole as their top end racing products so it's super soft and very springy, light too with a touch of inherent stability.
Brooks Glycerin ST
New Balance More v3
Lots of good choices to choose from.
Joe
Saucony: My partner used to wear the Hurricane for years, then I gave him a pair of Saucony Endorphin Shifts and he bought 6 more pairs he liked them that much.
Nike: I usually wear Bondi's, got a pair of Nike Invincible and I gotta say it's a heck of a shoe. Has the same Zoom X midsole as their top end racing products so it's super soft and very springy, light too with a touch of inherent stability.
Brooks Glycerin ST
New Balance More v3
Lots of good choices to choose from.
Joe
Joe,
Thanks for the detail in your response. Did some checking online about the Tempus and it looks like an interesting choice. Any idea what the price will be on it? I've tried Asics in the past and for me, the toebox always felt tight and became more unpleasant as the run went on. Maybe the newer ones have more room as I haven't tried any for about seven years. If the space in the toebox has improved I'd consider the Kayano Lite 2. In the last two years, it's been Gaviota 2, Bondi 7, Arahi 5, and now Hurricane 23. All of them are fine in the toebox area. I wish Hoka would put some "peppy" foam in their stable shoes, i.e., Clifton/Bondi since their shape seems to provide enough stability and they are definitely soft, but the Gaviota and Arahi are both less cushioned than the Hurricane 23. I might also keep my eyes glued for clearance on the Hurricane 23 and pick up one or two more since they seem to work so well for me.
Thanks again!
Thanks for the detail in your response. Did some checking online about the Tempus and it looks like an interesting choice. Any idea what the price will be on it? I've tried Asics in the past and for me, the toebox always felt tight and became more unpleasant as the run went on. Maybe the newer ones have more room as I haven't tried any for about seven years. If the space in the toebox has improved I'd consider the Kayano Lite 2. In the last two years, it's been Gaviota 2, Bondi 7, Arahi 5, and now Hurricane 23. All of them are fine in the toebox area. I wish Hoka would put some "peppy" foam in their stable shoes, i.e., Clifton/Bondi since their shape seems to provide enough stability and they are definitely soft, but the Gaviota and Arahi are both less cushioned than the Hurricane 23. I might also keep my eyes glued for clearance on the Hurricane 23 and pick up one or two more since they seem to work so well for me.
Thanks again!
Tempus lists for $160
Asics 7 years ago was not good. Asics now are excellent.
The Invincible, More v3 and Glycerin GTS 19 are all going to offer a similar level of cushioning than your Hurricanes.
No current plans for a high end foam in the Bondi or Arahi anytime soon. In fact HOKA is just adding higher end foams to a racing flat and spike for Spring '23 whereas they are pretty commonplace for other brands to offer these foams in many racing and daily training products. All of the shoes I suggested have high end foams that will offer the experience you're looking for.
Joe
Asics 7 years ago was not good. Asics now are excellent.
The Invincible, More v3 and Glycerin GTS 19 are all going to offer a similar level of cushioning than your Hurricanes.
No current plans for a high end foam in the Bondi or Arahi anytime soon. In fact HOKA is just adding higher end foams to a racing flat and spike for Spring '23 whereas they are pretty commonplace for other brands to offer these foams in many racing and daily training products. All of the shoes I suggested have high end foams that will offer the experience you're looking for.
Joe
Joe,
Thanks for the detail in your response. Did some checking online about the Tempus and it looks like an interesting choice. Any idea what the price will be on it? I've tried Asics in the past and for me, the toebox always felt tight and became more unpleasant as the run went on. Maybe the newer ones have more room as I haven't tried any for about seven years. If the space in the toebox has improved I'd consider the Kayano Lite 2. In the last two years, it's been Gaviota 2, Bondi 7, Arahi 5, and now Hurricane 23. All of them are fine in the toebox area. I wish Hoka would put some "peppy" foam in their stable shoes, i.e., Clifton/Bondi since their shape seems to provide enough stability and they are definitely soft, but the Gaviota and Arahi are both less cushioned than the Hurricane 23. I might also keep my eyes glued for clearance on the Hurricane 23 and pick up one or two more since they seem to work so well for me.
Thanks again!
Thanks for the detail in your response. Did some checking online about the Tempus and it looks like an interesting choice. Any idea what the price will be on it? I've tried Asics in the past and for me, the toebox always felt tight and became more unpleasant as the run went on. Maybe the newer ones have more room as I haven't tried any for about seven years. If the space in the toebox has improved I'd consider the Kayano Lite 2. In the last two years, it's been Gaviota 2, Bondi 7, Arahi 5, and now Hurricane 23. All of them are fine in the toebox area. I wish Hoka would put some "peppy" foam in their stable shoes, i.e., Clifton/Bondi since their shape seems to provide enough stability and they are definitely soft, but the Gaviota and Arahi are both less cushioned than the Hurricane 23. I might also keep my eyes glued for clearance on the Hurricane 23 and pick up one or two more since they seem to work so well for me.
Thanks again!
Thanks again for your info. I may just wait for the Tempus to come out. From a couple of reviews out there, it seems like it's going to be a really good stability shoe. Bummer that Hoka won't put bouncier foam in shoes like the Arahi or Gaviota. I love how they feel when I run in them but just lacking that little bit of pop.Tempus lists for $160
Asics 7 years ago was not good. Asics now are excellent.
The Invincible, More v3 and Glycerin GTS 19 are all going to offer a similar level of cushioning than your Hurricanes.
No current plans for a high end foam in the Bondi or Arahi anytime soon. In fact HOKA is just adding higher end foams to a racing flat and spike for Spring '23 whereas they are pretty commonplace for other brands to offer these foams in many racing and daily training products. All of the shoes I suggested have high end foams that will offer the experience you're looking for.
Joe