What are the differences between the Rocket X and the upcoming Carbon X2?
Men size 11.5
- The new Carbon X 2 will use similar materials found in the Rocket X. The CX2 will feature the same CF plate and even more of our lightest weight foam to date! The CX2 will handle longer distances for training and racing based on personal preference, comparative to the RX that was designed to handle mainly racing.
With AdiosPro using carbon rods and the ruling of only one layer of carbon plate (I know there is real specifics wording but hopefully you know what I’m referring to) where do you see the next step to make shoes even faster? Carbon plates, Cushioning? Somewhere else?
- “Excellence is to do a common thing in an uncommon way.” -Booker T. Washington
I recently purchased my first pair of Hokas. I decided on the Clifton and they seem a bit narrow. Is that normal for Hoka or just the Clifton. How would the Rocket X compare? Men’s 12.5.
- Our non-wide models are measured at standard width. Usually an EG mesh will conform to the shape of the foot and loosen up slightly but depending on your foot width, some will need a wide version. The Clifton wide should give you all the cushion of 3 seats without the cramped cabin. The Rocket X should fit similar to the Carbon X with a more accommodating lockdown across the forefoot. The Rocket X fits true to size.
How do the shoes handle in wet conditions? Going into winter & fall, this is going to be a huge factor with many of the current carbon plated racers.
- The zonal placed rubberized outsole will provide excellent traction in sub optimal conditions. However most shoes won’t help you swim.
Will the carbon plate in the Rocket X be more rigid in bigger sizes to accommodate for larger runners?
Men’s size 12
- The CF plate is 1mm thick for all sizes.
What is the weight of these? And would you suggest only using these on road or is light trail okay?
- The weight comes in at sample size for M9/W7 at 7.4oz or 210g. The outsole is really meant for road and would not accommodate uneven trail runs, however there is one video on youtube depicting a hard effort in the Rocket X on a groomed single-track trail in Ashland, OR. This gave some interesting insights on how the shoe could handle dirt roads overall.
About how many miles can I get out of this shoe? I would like a racer that can also use for my tempo workouts.
Women's 7.5
- Overall the Rocket X was designed as a racing flat specifically. This means large amounts of training would be better suited in a model like the Carbon X over a longer period of time. Unfortunately, mileage is not the most reliable determinant when calculating something subjective. What the shoe feels like underfoot to some may feel very different to someone else over a given amount of use. We do know the durability and ride experience will change over time like most footwear depending on a plethora of factors. These include but are not limited to; surface run on, individual gait patterns, exposure to extreme temperatures, and other variants of those. The CF plate does help distribute forces across the midsole evenly, leveling "wear/use." That being said however, The plate resiliency is dependent on the factors of "use/wear" for each individual since the CF plate and midsole work together.. Although there is a generous amount of propulsive midsole material, the initial “pop” will dampen as the shoe is used. Ultimately you can train in the Rocket X but it might not feel as “fresh” on race day depending on the volume of training it is used for. We recommend training in something like the Carbon X that will handle more miles of training and then using the Rocket X for race efforts.
As someone who has used the Clifton since the first model, how does the toe box width and durability compare to the Clifton?
- Adding to the family of lightweight propulsive cushioning, the initial thought started with the Carbon Rocket’s silhouette. The last/shaping of the upper came from the Carbon X although the materialization around the foot was tweaked to provide the best fit at the lowest weight. The Clifton upper was designed for training while the Rocket X was designed for racing. How you use the shoes will determine the durability of the upper.
Is this meant to be a training shoe as well as a racing shoe? What is the expected maximum mileage for these shoes?
- Overall the Rocket X was designed as a racing flat specifically. This means large amounts of training would be better suited in a model like the Carbon X over a longer period of time. Unfortunately, mileage is not the most reliable determinant when calculating something subjective. What the shoe feels like underfoot to some may feel very different to someone else over a given amount of use. We do know the durability and ride experience will change over time like most footwear depending on a plethora of factors. These include but are not limited to; surface run on, individual gait patterns, exposure to extreme temperatures, and other variants of those. The CF plate does help distribute forces across the midsole evenly, leveling "wear/use." That being said however, The plate resiliency is dependent on the factors of "use/wear" for each individual since the CF plate and midsole work together. Although there is a generous amount of propulsive midsole material, the initial “pop” will dampen as the shoe is used. Ultimately you can train in the Rocket X but it might not feel as “fresh” on race day depending on the volume of training it is used for.